How not to evengelise to an atheist: amazing ancient Chinese treasure ships

One of the objections Bible skeptics raise against the Genesis account concerns the feasibility of constructing such a large wooden vessel as Noah’s ark….there have been huge wooden ships in the past, such as the 130m long Egyptian warship built by Ptolemy Philopator (c. 244 – 205 [BCE]).

Furthermore, the size of some of the vessels constructed of wood (teak and bamboo) that the 15th century Chineese imperial fleet used for long sea voyages confirms that shipbuilders had mastered advanced techniques at that time.

From Creation Magazine, Vol. 37 Issue 1, January 2015

Hmmm. Creationist date for the flood: 2348 BCE. Date given in article for the Egyptian big wooden boat: 244 – 205 BCE. Date given for the focus of the article: 1405 – 1433 CE.

The examples of big boat building are respectively about 2100 and 3748 after the date claimed by creationists for the great flood. That… that’s not exactly a contemporary example. Try again.

Next: Conclusion

How not to evangelise to an atheist: Slippery Slope Warning on Euthanasia

If you haven’t yet, read this, or this post will not make sense to you.

Society’s increasing acceptance of voluntary so-called ‘mercy killing’ (euthanasia) is clearly linked to the abandonment of the Genesis declaration that people were specially created in God’s image.

…. Don’t make our mistake, dailymail.co.uk, 10 July 2014

From Creation Magazine, Vol. 37 No. 1 2015

Again, I see a reference to the Daily Fail and your article is immediately discredited. The rest of your magazine is also tainted, because journalists and/or editors who are THAT bad cannot be trusted.

As for the issue, it is one of the great examples of how creationists have little if any depth of understanding of the issues at hand. Continue reading

How not to evangelise to an atheist: Whale Shark Mystery

If you haven’t yet, read this, or this post won’t make sense.

If a WHALE SHARK dies, and falls to the seabed… it’s mealtime!

Researchers have found a deep-sea graveyard off the Angolan coast with the carcasses of four large marine creatures – a whale shark and three rays.

“It is extremely rare to encounter natural food-falls; in five decades of deep-sea photography and exploration only nine vertebrate carcasses have ever been documented,” the research team wrote. “To find four in such close proximity is unprecedented, suggesting that large food-falls are common in the region.”

What was not surprising was that the carcasses were being scavenged in a ‘food frenzy’…. Such scavenging on the seabed is both normal and widespread. Yet there are many fossils of exquisitely preserved aquatic creatures, raising the question: Why weren’t they scavenged? There’s clearly something awry about the frequently-made claim in evolutionary textbooks about fossil formation on the seabed.

….Where sharks go to die: Researchers find unique ‘underwater graveyard’ of giant fish, dailymail.co.uk 14 May 2014

So this happens time and again when I come across some terrible trump card a creationist holds up, convinced they’ve just collapsed the foundation of science. I do a Google search of about ten minutes, and come up with a plausible hypothesis which could explain the phenomenon without resorting to a stone age story shown in a hundred ways to be no more than a myth. Continue reading

How not to evangelise to an atheist: Secularism is Atheism part five

If you haven’t yet, read this or this post won’t make sense.

Countries that were once Christian have become secular (atheistic) in their public institutions. How has this happened? I think there are several factors:

1. The invention of a creation myth that allowed for aggressive atheism. This is cosmic evolution….

2. This materialistic creation myth took over the universities because it appealed to thee intellectual pride that thrives in such institutions…

From Creation Magazine, Vol. 37 No. 1 2015

When I read that, I am affronted. To claim the generally accepted scientific theories were invented by evil atheists with an agenda, and accepted due to intellectual pride, is to write off thousands of people who devoted their lives to a sincere, honest search for the truth, and were prepared to risk vilification, loathing, and often physical harm for it. It’s to basically defecate on the principle of approaching a question with a heartfelt effort to leave your preconceived notions and biases at the door.

The crowning glory is that this insult is dished out by people who examine the world from the platform of a foregone conclusion, who then twist everything to fit their already made up minds. Continue reading

How not to evangelise to an atheist: Secularism is Atheism part four

If you haven’t yet, read this, or this post won’t make sense.

‘Secularism’ was coined by British atheist George Holyoake in 1851. ‘Atheism’ evoked opposition, and therefore hindered the promotion of the godless worldview, and so Holyoake coined the term ‘secularism’. Atheists later adopted ‘secular humanism’ for the same reasons; it sounds much nicer than ‘atheism’.

From Creation Magazine, Vol. 37 No. 1 2015

Actually, the word has its origins in the 1300s, meaning at the time “living in the world, not belonging to a religious order“. So Holyoake’s use of the term was not de novo. Let’s also not forget that he was persecuted, imprisoned for his views, and this was Britain, not some backwater. I find it rich that a Creationist in an article arguing that Christianity is under siege from the evil atheists glosses over this fact. Continue reading